this is entitlement reform, medicare, med karkd social security, the tax code. it would be lard for me to believe we could come to kumbaya over these poornz it is part of the process. it is quite amazing the way the policy makers designed this. i absolutely agree. the uncertainty is a killer. it's weighing on business investments and hiring decisions. but on the other side, if we nail this down-- and i think we will-- we will be off and running. >> both sides use the uncertainty arguments, democrats and republicans both use it. which means it has a political smell to it, which mons it doesn't work with those politicians. the worry is uncertainty only works as a motivator of political behavior when it starts biting, when you start seeing the effect of uncertainty in a bigger way. we have different timelines here. we're talking about a sort of catastrophe of going over the cliff or not, or may be a deal that happens in the weeks after we go over the cliff. there's another option which is kind of a two-part deal. they're not really getting down to these big issues